Wargame: Airland Battle

Je passerai peut être mais si c’est le cas ça sera sur le tard. 

Je devrais être là.

edit: changement de plan, je ne serai pas là.

Bon, dommage pour hier soir… C’est bien toujours une bêta : leur patch a eu l’air d’avoir cassé quelques trucs au passage pour beaucoup de monde… :frowning:
 
Pas une partie menée jusqu’à la fin, c’est rageant.
 
Par contre, aujourd’hui, petite vidéo de présentation de la campagne, avec des images cette fois (contrairement à l’interview précédente), et ça a l’air yummy…

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBbweCyV3Io&feature=youtu.be[/video]


[MAJ] Egalement un gros patch d’équilibrage qui arrive :

GENERIC:
- all command helo set at 2 available per deck, and 2 decks available.
- all command tanks with top armor stricly inferior to 3 (but Norwegian M48 & Danish Centurion) now proposed as either 1 experienced (as before) or 2 regulars CV available per deck, and 2 packs available (not included from this change are therefore the top-heavy: Leo2, Cheftain Mk.10 & T-80UK, see below for their case).
- fixing discrepancies between recon optics in the stats and on their symbol.
- the same 33% (or 25% depending on rounding) loadout reduction presently applied on tank main gun’s shells will now be standardized over tank & IFV’s ATGM (but not on dedicated ATGM carrier nor chopper). Presently, only a few series were already « suffering » from such a reduction: T-80 (and it was more 50%), Starships, … Now it will be applied to all tanks/IFV ATGM (see below for details, and for some (T-80 or BMP-3) it will even mean a loadout increase!
- all supply helo set at 2 decks available (some already were).
- overall pass on unit sizes.
- overall pass on infantry speed (support/militia → regulars → recon/SF commandos → SF LRRP)

PACT:
- Soviet 9K121 Vikhr missile’s AP increased from 25 to 26.
- Soviet Konkurs-M missile’s AP increased from 22 to 25.
- Soviet Sheksna missile’s AP increased from 16 to 19.
- Soviet (and export) Konkurs missile’s AP increased from 18 to 19.
- Soviet (and export) Fleyta missile’s AP decreased from 18 to 15.
- Soviet 9M111M Faktoriya missile’s AP increased from 12 to 14.
- Soviet (and export) 9M111 Fagot missile’s AP increased from 10 to 11.
- Soviet (and export) 9M14P Malyutka-P missile’s AP increased from 12 to 13.

- all E-German UAZ-469 operational range decreased from 1000 to 750 km (as all other Pact nations’ UAZ).
- all E-German UAZ-469 speed set to 70 km/h (as all other Pact nations’ UAZ).
- Polish SKOT R-3 availability per deck increased from 3 to 4.
- CSSR VSOT-64A/R2 availability per deck increased from 3 to 4.
- CSSR VSOT-64A/R2M availability per deck decreased from 4 to 3.
- E-German SPW-50PU road speed decreased from 130 to 110km/h.
- Polish command T-55AD-1 & CSSR command T-55K1 optics increased to Normal (as all other CVs).

- Soviet UAZ-469 AGS-17 price increased from 45 to 50$.
- Soviet UAZ-469 AGS-17 availability per pack increased from 4 to 6 (1 pack).
- E-German SpPz-76 speed decreased from 50 to 45km/h (as all other Pact nations’ PT-76).

- E-German Fagot infantry team price decreased from 20 to 10$ (as all other Fagot teams).
- Soviet Faktoriya group price increased from 10 to 15$.

- Polish T-55L & CSSR T-55A optics decreased to Bad (as all other Pact nations’ T-55A).
- E-German KPz T-55AM2B missiles loadout decreased from 5 to 4.
- Soviet T-55AM2 & AMV missiles loadout decreased from 5 to 4.
- Soviet T-55AM2 price increased from 45 to 50$ (as all other Pact nations’ T-55AM2).
- Soviet T-62M-1 & MV missiles loadout decreased from 5 to 4.
- Soviet T-62 & T-62 Obr.72’s AP increased from 9 to 11.
- Soviet T-62M-V price decreased from 85 to 80$.
- CSSR T-62cz price decreased from 45 to 40$.
- Soviet T-64BM price increased from 80 to 95$.
- Soviet T-64BV price increased from 130 to 135$.
- Soviet T-72 availability per pack increased from 12 to 16.
- Soviet T-72A availability per pack increased from 8 to 12.
- Soviet T-72B1 price increased from 80 to 90$.
- Soviet T-72B1 availability per pack increased from 8 to 12.
- all NSWP (non-Soviet Warsaw Pact) T-72 availability per pack increased from 16 to 20.
- all NSWP (non-Soviet Warsaw Pact) T-72 number of pack available decreased from 2 to 1.
- all NSWP (non-Soviet Warsaw Pact) T-72M availability per pack increased from 12 to 16.
- all NSWP (non-Soviet Warsaw Pact) T-72M1 availability per pack increased from 8 to 12.
- Polish T-72M1 Jaguar price decreased from 65 to 60$.
- CSSR T-72M1cz price decreased from 65 to 60$.
- E-German KPz T-72M1 price decreased from 65 to 60$.
- Soviet T-80B, T-80A & T-80BV missiles loadout increased from 2 to 3.
- Soviet T-80 price decreased from 95 to 85$.
- Soviet T-80B price decreased from 110 to 100$.
- Soviet T-80A price increased from 125 to 130$.
- Soviet T-80BV price decreased from 140 to 130$.
- Soviet T-80U price increased from 160 to 170$.

- E-German SPW-50PK road speed decreased from 130 to 110km/h.
- Soviet BMP-1 & BMP-1P loadout decreased from 5 to 3.
- Soviet BMP-1P price decreased from 30 to 25$.
- Soviet BMP-2, BMP-2D & BMP-2 Obr.86 missiles loadout decreased from 4 to 3.
- Soviet BMP-2 price decreased from 35 to 30$.
- Soviet BMP-2D price decreased from 40 to 35$.
- Soviet BMP-2 Obr.86 price increased from 45 to 50$.
- Soviet BMP-3 missiles loadout increased from 4 to 6.
- Polish BWP-1 missiles loadout decreased from 5 to 3.
- Polish BWP-2 & BWP-2D missiles loadout decreased from 4 to 3.
- Polish BWP-2 price decreased from 35 to 30$.
- Polish BWP-2D price decreased from 40 to 35$.
- CSSR BVP-1 & BVP-1P missiles loadout decreased from 5 to 3.
- CSSR BVP-1P price decreased from 30 to 25$.
- CSSR BVP-2 price decreased from 35 to 30$.
- CSSR BVP-2 missiles loadout decreased from 4 to 3.
- E-German SPz BMP1 SP-1, SPz BMP-1 SP-2 & SPz BMP-1P/c missiles loadout decreased from 5 to 3.
- E-German SPz BMP-1/c price decreased from 30 to 25$.
- E-German SPz BMP2 missiles loadout decreased from 4 to 3.
- E-German SPz BMP-2 price decreased from 35 to 30$.
- Polish Promet price decreased from 25 to 20$.
- Soviet SU-122-54’s KPV now has the same AP & stats as the UAZ-469’s KPV.

- Soviet Tunguska variants had their service date switched. It has been fixed.
- Soviet 2S19 Msta-S top armor increased from 1 to 2.
- Polish Hybnerit ZU-23-2 price decreased from 15 to 10$.
- Polish Hybnerit ZUR-23-2S price decreased from 25 to 20$.
- Polish Hybnerit ZUR-23-2S can now fire its Strela missiles on the move.
- Soviet BTR-152E ZPTU- price decreased from 15 to 10$.
- E-German LO-1800 FASTA-4 price decreased from 25 to 20$.
- E-German LO-1800FASTA-4 can now fire its Strela missiles on the move.
- CSSR Strop 1 anti-air detection range increased to Exceptionnal.
- CSSR Strop 2 anti-air detection range increased to Exceptionnal.
- CSSR Strop 2 can now fire its Igla missiles on the move.
- AAA range increase against helos (includes national variants):

* Shilka : from 1750m to 2275m
* Biryusa : from 1925m to 2450m
* Tunguska : from 2100m to 2625m
* ZPTU : from 1050m to 1400m
* ZU-23-2 : from 1400m to 1925m
* Praga : from 1750m to 2100m
* Strop 1/2 : from 1750m to 2450m


- Soviet Ka-50 stealth increased from Bad to Good.

- Soviet MiG-31M service date moved to 1989, therefore listing it as « Prototype ».
- Soviet MiG-31 price decreased from $120 to $115.
- Soviet MiG-31M price decreased from $150 to $140.
- Soviet MiG-31M experience level increased by 1.

NATO:
- « AVGP » removed from the names of all the Canadian Cougar / Grizzly variants (too long).
- American (and export) TOW-2 missile’s AP decreased from 26 to 25.
- French-German HOT 2 missile’s AP decreased from 26 to 25.
- Canadian ADATS missile’s AP increased fom 22 to 25.
- French-German HOT 1 missile’s AP increased from 20 to 22.
- French-German HOT 1 increased from 2450m to 2625m (there shouldn’t have been a difference between HOT 1 & 2).
- Swedish & Norwegian RBS 70 missile’s anti-helicopter range increased from 2275m to 2450m.
- Swedish & Norwegian RBS 70 missile’s anti-plane range increased from 1820m to 1960m.

- W-German command Leopard 2 number of pack available increased from 2 to 3.
- British command Chieftain number of pack available increased from 2 to 3.
- US Humwee CP availability per deck increased (back) from 3 to 4.
- Norwegian command M48 now proposed as either 1 experienced (as before) or 3 regulars CV available per deck, but only 1 pack available.
- Danish command Centurion now proposed as either 1 experienced (as before) or 3 regulars CV available per deck, but only 1 pack available.
- Canadian command Leopard speed increased by +10km/h (as all other Leo1 variants).

- US M151A1 FAV price increased from 45 to 50$.
- US M151A1 FAV availability per pack increased from 4 to 6 (1 pack).
- British Rover Pinky price increased from 45 to 50$.
- British Rover Pinky availability per pack increased from 4 to 6 (1 pack).
- US M1025 Humvee Mk19 price decreased from 50 to 45$.
- Norwegian M24 stabilizer decreased to None.
- British FV721 Fox optics increased from Good to Very Good.
- US LAV-25 Scout price decreased from 65 to 60$.
- Danish M41-DK optics increased from Good to Very Good.
- Danish M41-DK price increased from 45 to 50$.
- British FV101 Scorpion & FV107 Scimitar operational range increased from ~450 to 650 km.
- French AMX-10 RC price decreased from 55 to 50$.
- French AMX-13/90 range decreased from 1925m to 1575m.
- French AMX-13/90 accuracy increased from 3 to 6.
- French Alouette III fuel capacity decreased from 1000 to 570.
- all French & British Gazelle fuel capacity set at 450.
- all Danish MD500/Cayuse fuel capacity decreased from 1000 to 250.

- US Marines got their veteran M16 back (they had the same as Riflemen presently).
- Swedish RBS-56 group’s missiles loadout increased from 4 to 8.
- French & British MILAN F1 team price increased from 10 to 15$.
- French MILAN F2 team price increased from 15 to 20$.
- US Light Riflemen Dragon’s missiles loadout increased from 8 to 10.
- W-German JagdKommando price increased from 15 to 20$.
- US Dragon 2 team now have Exceptionnal stealth (as all other 2-men teams).

- Canadian Leopard C1 (and CV variant) AP increased from 12 to 13.
- Canadian Leopard C1 (and CV variant) accuracy increased from 4 to 6.
- Canadian Leopard C1 (and CV variant) range increased from 1925m to 2100m.
- Canadian Leopard C1 price increased from 50 to 60$.
- Canadian Command Leopard C1 price increased from 200 to 210$.
- US M151A1 Sheridan missile loadout decreased from 9 to 7.
- US MBT-70 missile loadout decreased from 6 to 4.
- French AMX-40 price decreased from 100 to 95$.
- Norwegian Leopard 1A1NO accuracy increased from 5 to 6.
- Norwegian Leopard 1A1NO prince increased from 50 to 55.
- W-German Leopard 2 price decreased from 120 to 110$.
- W-German Leopard 2A1 price decreased from 130 to 125$.
- W-German KPz 70 Keiler price decreased from 100 to 85$.
- British Challenger front armor increased fom 18 to 19.
- US M1 Abrams price decreased from 100 to 90$.
- US M1IP Abrams price decreased from 115 to 105$.
- US Super M60 price decreased from 85 to 80$.
- Canadian Centurion Mk.6 accuracy increased from 3 to 4.
- Swedish Strv 102 accuracy increased from 3 to 4.
- Canadian Centurion Mk.11 accuracy increased from 4 to 5.
- Swedish Strv 102R accuracy increased from 4 to 5.
- Danish Centurion 105mm price increased from 30 to 35$.
- US M60A2 Starship price increased from 30 to 35$.
- US M60A2E2 Starship price increased from 35 to 40$.
- Swedish Strv 103B (& command variant) stabilizer decreased to None (5% chance to hit on the move).
- Swedish Strv 103B (& command variant) accuracy increased from 5 to 7.
- Swedish Strv 103C stabilizer decreased to None (5% chance to hit on the move).
- Swedish Strv 103C accuracy increased from 6 to 9.
- Swedish Strv 103C fuel capacity increased from 955 to 1300.
- Swedish Strv 103C operational range increased from 400 to 560.
- Swedish Strv 103C now comes in 2 packs, with veterancy decreased.
- Swedish Strv 103C available in Mechanized decks.
- Swedish Strv 104 available in Mechanized decks.
- French AMX-10 RC Surblindé price decreased from 40 to 30$.

- W.-German Fuchs MILAN now restricted to AirLifted deck only.
- W.-German Wiesel (both variants) set as available in the AirLifted deck.
- French VLRA trucks (cargo & transport) aren’t available in Air Assault deck anymore, but AirLifted instead.
- US M163 CS ranges set as 1575m (Ground) / 1400m (Helo) / 1400m (Planes).
- French AMX-10P MILAN price decreased from 40 to 30$.
- US M2 Bradley missile loadout decreased from 6 to 4.
- US M2 Bradley pric decreased from 50 to 45$.
- US M2A1 Bradley missile loadout decreased from 6 to 4.
- US M113A1 Dragon loadout decreased from 4 to 3.
- W-German TPz Fuchs MILAN missile loadout reduced from 4 to 3.
- W-German Marder 1A1, 1A2 & 1A3 missiles loadout reduced from 6 to 4.
- Swedish TGB 13 now available in both Mechanized & Armored decks.
- all Swedish vehicles armed with the Kustjägare’s CQC light machine-gun switched back to standard MG.
- Swedish Tgb m/42 available in Mechanized decks.
- W-German Marder 1A1 price decreased from 35 to 30$.
- W-German Marder 1A2 price decreased from 40 to 35$.
- W-German Marder 1A3 price decreased from 50 to 45$.
- Swedish Srtf 9040 price decreased from 50 to 40$.
- Swedish Ikv 103 price decreased from 15 to 10$.
- Swedish Ikv 103 number of packs available decreased from 2 to 1.
- Swedish Ikv 91 price decreased from 35 to 30$.
- M2 Bradley price decreased from 50 to 45$.
- US M113A3 price decreased from 15 to 10$.

- British M110 RA & M110A2 RA rear armor increased to 1 (as their American counterparts).
- British M110 RA price increased by from 50 to 55$ (as their American counterpart).
- British M110 RA price increased by from 60 to 65$ (as their American counterpart).
- Danish Hawk isn’t classified as prototype anymore.
- US I-Hawk isn’t classified as prototype anymore.
- French AML 60 Serval isn’t available in AirAssault decks anymore.
- French AMX-13 Oeil Noir weapon system gets the trait « Radar ».
- French AMX-13 Oeil Noir range against planes increased from 1750m to 2275m (being radar guided).
- French AMX-13 Oeil Noir price increased from 15 to 20$.
- Swedish VEAK 40 range against planes increased from 2275m to 2800m (being radar guided).
- Swedish Lvkv fm/43 price decreased from 15 to 10$.
- AAA range increase against helos (includes variants):

* AMX13 Oeil Noir : from 1750m to 2275m
* VAB VDAA : from 1400m to 1925m
* Falcon : from 1750 to 1925m
* FlakPz M42A1 : from 1575m to 1925m
* FlakPz Guepard : from 2275m to 2800m
* LVKV fm/43 : from 1575m to 1925m
* VEAK 40 : from 2275m to 2800m
* Vulcan : from1750m to 2100m
* Pivads : from 1925m to 2450m


- Danish CH-46 Sea Knight side-gun changed from M2 to Minigun (as on the model).
- Swedish Pvhkp 9A speed increased from 205 to 270km/h (like all other Bo105).

- French Mirage 2000C RDI service date moved to 1988, therefore listing it as « Prototype ».
- US EA-6 Prowler is now only available in USMC decks.
- French Mirage IIIE name changed into IIIC.
- US F-14 price increase from 140 to 145$.

Tutorials

- Tutorial 1 is easier for slow paced players. Added some hints

Va falloir retoucher les decks… :wink: (au passage, GAFFE : les AMX13 Oeil Noir passent guidés radar, donc vulnérables aux SEAD, contrairement aux Rolands qui eux sont IR… Par contre, le buff de leur portée est intéressant)

le correctif suivant, v529, corrige les instabilités d’hier soir.

Ce soir, je  FAIS TOUT PAYTAY!

Les Canadiens ont été (un peu) buff \o/ Mon deck Poutine Mécanique ne fera bientôt plus rire, vous allez voir   :devil2:

on se fait un 1v1 ce soir si tu veux :stuck_out_tongue:

Bon bah visiblement il y a des gens motivés pour ce soir ?  (w00t)

(parce que là maintenant tout de suite, c’est calme plat sur les gens que j’ai dans steam… 'verra après le repas !)

He ben, ça taunte, ça taunte, mais plus grand monde derrière… :frowning:

uh. Changements de plans, sorry :confused:

Plus de desync \o/! Les deux parties hier étaient vraiment sympa!

Du coup il me reste a préparer des decks combos otan :slight_smile:

Bon j’ai craqué je l’ai pris ce jeu :3 j’ai hâte de tester ça!

Oui la partie d’hier était très sympa. Dommage pour le derp sur les FOB par contre, maintenant je sais qu’il faut les placer AVANT le début de partie :stuck_out_tongue:

J’ai toujours un peu de mal en 10v10, j’ai une capacité multitâche limitée et j’ai parfois des difficultés à suivre ce qui se passe sur tous les fronts. Et puis Berzerkh parle vite et beaucoup :smiley: Mais ça vient doucement. 

ah.  :wacko:
 je vais… freiner. pardon   :sweating:

[quote=“Berzehk, post:73, topic: 54915”][/quote]

Mais non, il faut surtout que je commence à apprendre le nom des unités et les acronymes histoire de m’y retrouver. 

:slight_smile:
En attendant ca a été très sympa de jouer avec vous deux, et pour un nouveau tu as de très bons réflexes  Les hélicos ramenés au bon moment, les bombardements aussi. :slight_smile:

Bon la fin de partie hier c’était un peu nawak, le moindre CV adverse se prenant généralement 4-5 napalm, 3-4 AoE et un peu d’artillerie pour finir de raser le terrain :slight_smile:

[quote=“Funkylolo, post:76, topic: 54915”][/quote]
c’est vrai qu’il restait pas beaucoup de foret intacte. Ou de ville.  :devil2:

Nouveau patch les enfants !!!
 

New Maps
- Stromsund (1vs1) - Battle for the Fjord (1vs1) - Lillehammer (2vs2 / 3vs3) - Malmo (2vs2 / 3vs3) - Stavanger (3vs3 / 4vs4) - Herdmark (3vs3 / 4vs4)

^_^

Et l’autre bonne nouvelle c’est que toutes les unités seront débloquées directement, ils abandonnent le système d’étoiles de commandement.

[quote=« Mister_Moi, post:79, topic: 54915 »][/quote]
Ca c’est une bonne décision :wink:
Bon c’est sur que celui qui débute risque de se retrouver submergé mais s’ils fournissent aussi des decks premade comme dans la beta, ça aidera à commencer et la partie solo semblant prendre une meilleure tournure que dans W:EE ça devrait faciliter les choses.
Pour les plus aguerris c’est du tout bon et je voyais mal comment jouer avec les compositions de decks qui constituent une grosse part du jeu si on était limité par les unités dispo. Autant dans W:EE on debloquait ce qu’on voulait en priorité (via quelques resets d’étoiles bienvenus) mais là on se serait retrouvé trop limité pour exploiter la richesse des bonus de decks.